Imagine, just for a moment, that the shadows in your home whispered secrets of long-forgotten crimes. That's the thrilling atmosphere we conjure in our latest auditory escapade where the worlds of true crime and the paranormal collide with a dash of humor for good measure. As Duffy takes the lead with his knowledge of the darker side of humanity, we're peppered with tales that might just convince you to keep the lights on at night. We laugh in the face of fear, misquoting music legends, and dabble in the market of haunted houses - would you dare to live in one?
This episode isn't all chuckles and chills; we dive deep into the story of radio show La Mano Peluda and its host, Juan Ramon Sanz, whose death is draped in otherworldly intrigue. As we recount the sinister on-air revelations of listener Josue Velasquez, we ponder the weight these paranormal encounters may carry - both on the airwaves and beyond. We juggle the playful debate of tackling spirits ourselves with the somber implications of these tales. And as we prepare to delve further into the realm of the supernatural next time, we leave you with a quiver of anticipation.
Wrapping up, we acknowledge the power of these stories and their impact on you, our listeners, with a heartfelt shoutout to our friends in Mexico. The discussion isn't limited to our podcast but continues to flourish in our Telegram community chats. Your unwavering support fuels our exploration into the bizarre and the unexplained, and for that, we're eternally grateful. So, as we close this chapter, brace yourselves for what awaits in the shadowy corners of upcoming episodes, where the veil between our world and the unknown grows ever thinner.
Imagine, just for a moment, that the shadows in your home whispered secrets of long-forgotten crimes. That's the thrilling atmosphere we conjure in our latest auditory escapade where the worlds of true crime and the paranormal collide with a dash of humor for good measure. As Duffy takes the lead with his knowledge of the darker side of humanity, we're peppered with tales that might just convince you to keep the lights on at night. We laugh in the face of fear, misquoting music legends, and dabble in the market of haunted houses - would you dare to live in one?
This episode isn't all chuckles and chills; we dive deep into the story of radio show La Mano Peluda and its host, Juan Ramon Sanz, whose death is draped in otherworldly intrigue. As we recount the sinister on-air revelations of listener Josue Velasquez, we ponder the weight these paranormal encounters may carry - both on the airwaves and beyond. We juggle the playful debate of tackling spirits ourselves with the somber implications of these tales. And as we prepare to delve further into the realm of the supernatural next time, we leave you with a quiver of anticipation.
Wrapping up, we acknowledge the power of these stories and their impact on you, our listeners, with a heartfelt shoutout to our friends in Mexico. The discussion isn't limited to our podcast but continues to flourish in our Telegram community chats. Your unwavering support fuels our exploration into the bizarre and the unexplained, and for that, we're eternally grateful. So, as we close this chapter, brace yourselves for what awaits in the shadowy corners of upcoming episodes, where the veil between our world and the unknown grows ever thinner.
Fools. Actually, I think it's Hold on, hold on, it is.
Speaker 2:
April 7th. Yeah, they know what I mean. We're back.
Speaker 3:
And better than ever. We're tails 2.9 and a half and three quarters.
Speaker 2:
Isn't this like the third rebrand we've done?
Speaker 3:
I mean, technically, this one isn't even a rebrand, this is just a reformatting, adding, adding a new element.
Speaker 2:
Yeah, yeah, that one seems a lot more fitting yeah, do you want to let them know what that is?
Speaker 3:
bum, bum, bum. Crimes of trueness yes, true crimes.
Speaker 2:
I think for these first couple ones we probably best like do like try to tie into paranormal. But going forward we are going to be doing more like true crime and to see if we can find like tie into the paranormal. But I don't know, man, I'm really excited it'll definitely be interesting to see.
Speaker 3:
Like I said, I've never done true crime, so uh duffy's gonna be the leads on this one, because, uh, that's his realm of expertise. But I think it'll.
Speaker 2:
Why'd you say it like that man? Because you're a master.
Speaker 3:
Yes, don't worry about Sweetheart, he murders many a people. Jeff Dunham, you know the ventriloquist? Yeah, he murdered him, jesus, it just hasn't been reported yet. And the Jeff Dunham?
Speaker 2:
that's out there. I turned him into a giant puppet. Nobody's ever going to know, yep, so he ventriloquist of ventriloquist. Is that a ventriloquist?
Speaker 3:
Yes, ah, and if you'll excuse me, I have to go take a ventriloquist. Ha ha, I don't really, I just wanted to fit it in there. That's a bad one.
Speaker 2:
God damn it, you leave me alone.
Speaker 3:
I'm trying here, I'm trying, I'm trying here it's been a long weekend with not much sleep. All right, leave me alone, I'm trying oh man, it's good to be back it is life gets in the way. I was also wondering, though, if I should keep the tales voice or kind of switch it for the new format, but but, uh, real voice.
Speaker 2:
Hey guys, where's my bag? Is that real, your real voice? Uh, good stuff, good stuff.
Speaker 3:
I don't know I might try a normal voice on the next uh next episode and see how that goes. Just cause uh doing this for so many years, is uh wearing and tearing on these vocal? Is wearing and tearing on these vocal cords? I'm not a professional singer.
Speaker 2:
Yes, you are. I've got the black lung. Some say you are the Barbit Streisand of our generation.
Speaker 3:
Yes, I'm hooked on a feeling, as she said.
Speaker 2:
That's not her at all. You're way off there bud.
Speaker 3:
Oh, true, that was a blue suede shoes, that's. Elvis, jesus Christ. I'm trying to confuse you, but it's not working.
Speaker 2:
You know she said her famous song Dancing in the Moonlight. I didn't know. Barbra Streisand was in King Harvest.
Speaker 3:
Was in what's her face? Dolly Parton, the one that sings Gangster's Paradise.
Speaker 2:
Yes, that was her, and then Coolio did a cover of it. Yes, I love it. I want to find one of those AI apps that does the voice. It gives you a list of celebrities, then you just clip the video into there and then it sings it in their voice. I want to do Gangster's Paradise, but as Dolly Parton.
Speaker 3:
Oh God, that would be hilarious. It would be amazing. God, that would be hilarious. It would be amazing, Yet terrifying.
Speaker 2:
We get enough fucking likes to see if we can get her to actually do it.
Speaker 3:
Right. If you can share this episode and get it out there more than normal. We will try and get Dolly Parton to record something for the podcast.
Speaker 2:
We need to record this. Our followers. They did what we said She'd be like no, Now I'm not asking, Now I'm telling you.
Speaker 3:
I don't sing that gang-banging craziness shit. Come on now.
Speaker 2:
Under her hair. It's an actual wig Right, it's just blonde Coolio hair.
Speaker 3:
Oh no, I think that would be absolutely terrifying. That would be scarier than the fucking ghost at my old house.
Speaker 2:
Would, it.
Speaker 3:
Yeah, yeah, it'd actually be a lot more terrified than that, cause that thing really never did anything. It just fucked with me and like terrifying me. Just watched you Basically a fucking pervert. I mean, who knows? We don't know who died in that house, who lived in it, where? Yeah, I don't know, it was like the records from like the city. I never tried. Honestly, I probably could if I went back to the listing, cause yeah, my old haunted house that I've told many a story about on here is actually for sale right now.
Speaker 2:
Right, we were talking about that the other day. It's it's like a fairly decent price for like what you're getting, but it's it's like a fairly decent price for like what you're getting, but then you're like go, so like never mind, yeah, yeah, I don't.
Speaker 3:
Uh, I still don't fancy that back door right at the foot of my bed.
Speaker 2:
That's something I'll never get used to yeah, that that looked unsettling, especially from like when you were telling me the stories about that I was like, oh, that's like fucking close. That's terrifying just to fucking see all that shit. They're like no, I'm good yeah, it was.
Speaker 3:
Uh, it's definitely avoidable. Even, uh, my cousin's old house, driving by there just never feels right. As soon as you get like within the realm of the yard, just the whole atmosphere changes yeah, have you told your cousin that the that house is for sale?
Speaker 3:
Yeah, he's the one that told me he had called me and he's like yeah, I wanted to go inside and see if they'd show. You know, let me see it. But he said he couldn't even make it past the gate, which I don't blame him. We had a lot of crazy shit happen.
Speaker 2:
Oh, like he couldn't bring himself to go past the gate, or like he was scared.
Speaker 3:
Yeah, just from all the shit that happened back in the day, I thought the gate was locked, I was like why didn't you call the owner? No, no, it was open when he went by. He just couldn't bring himself past that due to all the shit that happened when we were kids.
Speaker 2:
I don't blame him. All that shit sounds fucking terrifying.
Speaker 3:
Yeah, it's definitely no fun. So if you haven't yet, go back and listen to some of the episodes. I can't for the life of me remember what they're called, but the description of the episode will explain that it is our personal stories.
Speaker 2:
Yeah, that's a lot of stuff going on there. I would really love to see if we can actually get in and like investigate, but I doubt that.
Speaker 3:
Yeah. I don't think it's good for the fucking market, right? Oh yeah, paranormal investigation and now no one's buying the house. We have to put it down to a $10.
Speaker 2:
A podcaster got killed by ghosts in here.
Speaker 3:
Oh no, as long as it's not one of us.
Speaker 2:
Yeah, that's what I meant. It's probably going to be one of us. No, no. I'm willing to make that sacrifice so we can have a cheap house to record.
Speaker 3:
We'll bring Daddy Fat Sex on for that one.
Speaker 2:
Yeah, we'll send him in first.
Speaker 3:
It'll go after the old, one Age before beauty.
Speaker 2:
Yeah, we'll have to send him in first. We'll be like, hey, we need you to get something for us in there real quick and just close the door behind him Hell who's gonna get you, and he was never heard from again. Fuck that. He'd probably jump through the window.
Speaker 3:
Right.
Speaker 2:
Yeah stuntman Fuck this shit, I'm out Speaking of. Fuck that shit, I'm out. What do you?
Speaker 3:
have for the nice people today. Um well, since you're the one that found it and I don't want to butcher the names, since I can pronounce things in spanish, but I gotta typically hear them a few times first I will let you lead the way on our uh, first crime slash. This is actually a good one, because this is a mix of crime well, possibly crime from the ending that I heard and what he might have gotten himself into but also paranormal.
Speaker 2:
All right, so today's episode was brought to you by me. I'm just kidding.
Speaker 3:
Bum, bum, bum. He's a sponsor.
Speaker 2:
I sponsored it with my shenanigans.
Speaker 3:
Yes.
Speaker 2:
So today's is just a case is about an episode of La Mano Peluda which, just as a background I'm not sure if you've heard of it I think you told me that you had like vaguely, I think we had talked about it once before.
Speaker 3:
Yeah, yeah, we have. But if you want to bring the refresher, I'm game for that one.
Speaker 2:
Okay, so what La Mano Peluda basically is? It's a very popular radio show that broadcasts out of Mexico, but it's coast to coast in the United States, so it's like a really big radio station.
Speaker 2:
I feel like I've listened to it a couple times with, like my older brother yeah but the whole show spanned like two decades and basically what it was is a show where people would call in and they'd give them like they give the host. His name was, uh, juan ramon sans and he was the host for like 1995 till, I want to say, like 2010 around there god damn yeah, he was there for a minute but callers were calling and telling, like his parent, their paranormal stories and they like seek help and whatnot. But, like I said, he was the host for like 95 to 2010 and then it's currently.
Speaker 2:
It's still going on right now, but it's currently being hosted by Ruben Garcia Castillos, but the whole thing is that the original host died in like a really weird, mysterious way that like a lot of things combine to like make it seem as there's some kind of like paranormal foul play and the basically what we're going to be going through is a case that he had taken on, uh, while he was the host of la mano peluda which might have been the reason for his demise yes, sir, so the case is of josue velasquez.
Speaker 2:
Um, sorry, so I forgot to film. So, like I said, a lot of people think that this case directly influenced the death of the original host, juan Ramon Sanz. I'm just calling him. Juan or Mr.
Speaker 2:
Sanz. Yeah, so I'm, what I'm gonna do here is, since it's, like I said, it's kind of like a new format, I'm gonna just tell you guys, like the information I have, and then we can go back and like review and question it and poke more into it. Okay, so the case was josue velasquez. He called the radio show from el monte, california. So he called from California and what he told Juan Ramon Sanz, or Mr Sanz, um, there were so many listeners for this episode cause he had, like, announced it ahead of time. So he basically basically told Mr Sanz uh, what Josue told him was when he was 16, um, he was, his family was really poor. They didn't have a lot of money. It was him, his sister, his brother, his mom and their grandmother that all lived in a small house in Mexico and he worked and worked, and worked, but they could never get ahead, which is unfortunately a lot of how Mexico runs. It's cheaper, but that's if you have already money. You're poor in mexico.
Speaker 3:
you're like poor, poor, oh I mean, that's honestly kind of the way it's going here now. If you're you know, if you have a job you're able to make it, but just barely yeah, but that's the thing, though.
Speaker 2:
Here is like everything's so expensive. In mexico, everything's a lot cheaper yeah but if you don't have the money, like you, you don't, you're not already set, it's harder to get yourself up there it's harder to get a head over there.
Speaker 3:
Which can be a nightmare in and of itself.
Speaker 2:
That's why a lot of people go from like Mexico to here. Then they send money over there Cause you're like our money's worth more than what theirs is.
Speaker 3:
Yeah.
Speaker 2:
So like, oh, we can just get a leg up. But basically what they told mr sans was when he was 16 he was really poor. He tried to like everything to get ahead but he couldn't right. So what he ended up finding was a hebrew book that details like step by step, on how to summon a demon.
Speaker 3:
So my question is would that be similar to then, like a, a Dybbuk or something of that nature?
Speaker 2:
Um, if anything, it'd be more like what was his name? Like Robert Johnson the dude? He was a musician. He sold his soul to the devil. But instead of making selling soul to the devil, he made a pact with a demon in exchange for money and economic power. Um, but the whole thing was, it's super fucked up. I'll get more into it when we go okay, so just remember that part. So he wanted to basically make a pact so he could, like, help his family out right like they're like they're really poor.
Speaker 2:
I want to be able to provide for my family and all that. So what had happened was in that book he had summoned a demon. He kept well, he kept trying to summon a demon with using that book, but nothing was happening like.
Speaker 3:
Nothing happened like yeah so he noticed nothing bountiful.
Speaker 2:
Pretty much. So he did that for like a couple months and then nothing had happened and in frustration he has sliced his arm open and he yelled the name of a different demon and he and a demon ended up appearing to him. It was like a tall, slender, like dark figured kind of person.
Speaker 3:
Yeah.
Speaker 2:
And it basically told them what to do and that's how they would gain like riches and all that. And what ended up happening was he did what the demon said, but he was realizing that there was like no changes whatsoever. Nothing was happening.
Speaker 3:
Yeah.
Speaker 2:
So in frustration he yelled out another demon's name and then later that night he had gone to bed and he's like, oh okay, well, let's see what happens, right? And he woke up in the middle of the night to screaming. He heard screaming coming from his mom's room and what had happened was, when he walked in he had saw like a giant pig standing on two like its back legs, and it was attacking his mom which is terrifying, because I mean a giant pig yep, yep.
Speaker 2:
So what ended up happening at that point? He's what he has said was that him and the pig flew away to like a cave, and it's not 100 clear if the demon gave him this item or if he had a forge it himself. But he basically gave him a ring called the ring of king solomon and like, if I'll find a picture and I'll show you, guys, I'll show you, okay, um, it has like a bunch of like weird symbols all over it and basically what it did was it granted him like the amount of, like the power and like the measures of money that he wanted yeah so he gave him the ring, but he realized that wasn't really working yet.
Speaker 2:
And then he found out the catch. The catch of the ring. But he realized that it wasn't really working yet. And then he found out the catch. The catch of the ring is he had to sacrifice somebody to get the ring going. So he's like, well, I can't do my mom, sister or my brother, because this is who I'm doing it for and he's like my grandmother's older, so she's already lived a good life, she'll be fine. So he ended up killing her. Oh and yeah, and how he described it was it was really brutal and like it was hardcore. But the strange thing is, when they went to investigate it, the cops chalked it down as like natural causes what the fuck yeah.
Speaker 2:
So then after that the ring started going, he got like, uh, he went to school to be a bioengineer and that takes a lot of years. And he said he completed the whole program, maybe like a year so that's like a nine-year course.
Speaker 2:
So he said that the ring was going and he was it's yeah, like everything's perfectly fine. But then he starts describing that the catch that the ring was going and he was it's yeah, like everything's perfectly fine. But then he starts describing that the catch of the ring, where it's super fucked up, is he isn't allowed to help anybody out with money. So he said that he gained about like 15,000 every day.
Speaker 3:
Yeah. And the second catch yeah, he has to use it that same day, right.
Speaker 2:
Yes, sir, you have to use the cash or else it's going to disappear on you and he can't help. He can't give anybody money, he can't like. He said that one time he had given money to this lady who was like her son died, or something like that yeah and they gave him the money for like to help him out.
Speaker 2:
And then, after every single day after that, um, he saw like a tall, like a tall lady with like long black hair and she was like hideous looking but she didn't have any legs and she attacked him and then she was like tormenting him. So ever since she he helped out with that money, every single day he kept seeing her like she wouldn't go away.
Speaker 3:
Okay, and then it looks like any time that he tried to use his money to help people, it would attack him.
Speaker 2:
Yeah.
Speaker 3:
Damn.
Speaker 2:
Yeah, that's what basically.
Speaker 3:
That's some twisted shit.
Speaker 2:
Yeah, so he can never give like the money to help anybody out. So when he did this call with Mr Sons, yeah, with uh, mr sons, yeah, during the phone call mr son said that in the background he can hear like wailing and like like screaming and shit like that like crazy sounds jesus and, yeah, he said that, uh, jose had to stop, or jose had to stop because she was right behind him and like it was messing with the phone call.
Speaker 2:
And he said he had to light a candle because the thing was bothering him, the creature was bothering him and they were sitting in front of him and the noises that basically you could hear were like, they were terrifying, like he was in pain, jesus, yeah. So he continued to tell mr sans like, nah, those noises don't scare me, or whatever. But then he just broke down and started crying. And the crazier thing is you'd be like no, no, no, please leave me alone.
Speaker 3:
And she had some kind of like symbol on with her, like an inverted cross or something like that, and he would start crying and crying like it hurt him and well, I can see why yeah, because they said that the symbol, like when he saw the symbol, it signified that he was gonna die um yeah, it's fucked up, yeah, that's uh, that's one hell of a thing, like just sitting there and knowing, okay, as soon as I see this symbol. Well, bye guys, time for me to make a night nights pretty much yeah.
Speaker 2:
And then uh, mr sanz later recalled that during the phone call everything started feeling like uneasy, like the room he was in, because, remember, this is over a radio station he called in. Yeah, they're not in the same fucking room.
Speaker 2:
So during the whole interview he was felt like everything was like really like, like there's something really off about this yeah um, he said that the room got unbelievably, unbelievably cold and then, like halfway through the like the conversation, he called the priest down to see if he can help him. Um, he'll swear out, but he couldn't. And and that's where things started getting weird, because Mr Sons and the priest were reading from a Bible and the pages from the Bible started to curl up on its own and there was a laptop that basically exploded right next to him during this whole conversation.
Speaker 3:
Which that's not traditional when it comes to any sort of radio shows or really anything.
Speaker 2:
Yeah, so fast forward nine years after this radio conversation. Uh, juan ramon sanz, he left the la mano peluda, like the the what's called. He left, like the the show yeah and he got. There's a channel I've talked about before, it's called tv azteca and they do like, like, although like the paranormal shows, like the crazy, like Spanish paranormal shows, I think what I've talked about a couple of times on here.
Speaker 3:
Yeah.
Speaker 2:
Where they give him his own show. So they give Mr Ramon San sorry, jose Ramon San's his own like TV show and with a team from TV Azteca they basically went to document and talk to josue. So josue, he basically when he told them like hey, I gotta like if I'm doing this, I'm gonna have a set of rules that we're gonna follow and you guys can't question if you want me to do this, yeah, so basically he told them like the, you're not gonna know the location of the interview till the day of the interview, right?
Speaker 3:
and and I hear that part of that was rumored because they were saying like he owed some bad people money or like that could have been part of the reason part of it was he was scared because he owed supposedly he owed people money and he thought like, hey, being on the water, I'm going to be safe around all these people. Yeah.
Speaker 2:
But what he had said was he wanted to meet on a lake, because what he said was that the spirits can't cross the water. Like, I'm safe from the spirits here and it's going to be perfectly fine.
Speaker 3:
Which is weird, because you always hear about water amplifying spiritual activity. So you know, I mean, but you got to think about it. If the demon told him that somehow like oh you know, if you're here we can't get you, like obviously it's just fucking with him, or like where did he hear that from, is my question. I don't think we'll ever know, but it makes you wonder.
Speaker 2:
I want to see if we can find this interview and watch it at some point today. But basically they're saying, like when they met him, that he had like a human bone with him, like a human femur, and he said like, oh, this protects me from the spirits and all that.
Speaker 3:
Yeah.
Speaker 2:
And when he went and like he first, met everybody everybody noticed that I think it was on his left hand, he had a black glove, supposedly covering where, like the ring is yeah, he still had possession of the ring. And with everybody else, like he went, he met the camera guy, he met like the other host and he met with, I think, like the sound engineer guy, yeah, and he shook all their hands, but with his right hand and then when he got to mr suns he took off the black glove and he shook his hand with the left one which I mean that right there is shady in and of itself yep, but you're not gonna be rude, you're not gonna be like no, I'm not gonna shake your fucking hand, you weirdo.
Speaker 2:
Yeah, um, because he didn't think any of it at the moment, but a lot of people go back now and they watch it. And what happened to Mr Sanz? Everybody believes that Jose, it was part of a ritual he had to complete Because, as they said, he knew he was going to die. A lot of people think that what happened next was due to that. Yeah, so basically, they do the interview, they're talking and all that. Basically, they do the interview, they're talking and all that. And then Juan Ramon Sanz he says that he's starting to feel weird. He has a really bad stomach pain. Halfway through the interview you can see he's sweating and he's shifting uncomfortably during the interview and everybody kind of got a weird eerie feeling from like the fucking, from being there. And after the interview happens, um, juan ramon confesses that for weeks after meeting jose that he heard like strange things started happening to him yeah so well in his home so he felt his bed shake.
Speaker 2:
He felt like there's a wind behind his ear at all times, and he thinks that all this stuff happened because he ended up helping Jose. So, like I said, he felt like the stomach pain during the interview. So, after the show aired, juan Ramon passed away due to stomach infection bacteria in his stomach, and it gets weirder than that, though. So remember he shook hands with everybody but Juan Ramon Sanz though. So remember he shook hands with everybody. Yeah, juan Ramon Sanz was the only one that he shook with his left hand where the ring that Re Salomon was on.
Speaker 3:
Right.
Speaker 2:
So King Solomon's ring was on his left hand. He's the only person that shook hands with him with his left hand. So after that the cameraman had to go to the hospital because he had a gallbladder thing going on yeah the second host, um, who like set up the whole media and all that, and he was there as well.
Speaker 2:
he was in a car accident and a little bit after the interview aired the priest, roberto gauzo, the guy from like the nine year interview, like back like back nine years. Yeah, he mysteriously died of like some kind of heart issue. So a lot of people started to think that Josue did all that stuff because he still has the ring.
Speaker 3:
Well, I mean, the creepier shit too is what listeners were saying. Is what listeners were saying. So like one of them was saying that he was a driver for a taxi, working 4 pm to 4 am while listening to the episode, and he had picked up a woman and her mother and they were holding something in a blanket and the thing in the blanket had started twisting and turning, screaming and like it was a terrifying voice, and when that happened the taxi became uncontrollable. So he was trying as hard as he could to prevent them from dying in an accident and the thing in the blanket was a five-year-old girl. But I guess he's saying you never would have guessed it because of the sounds and the shit that was happening.
Speaker 3:
And the older woman had requested to be taken to a church and, ignoring his advice, to head to the hospital, which is never a good idea, but that again adds to the mystique of it. And then when the girl twisted and screamed, the taxi would violently shake. So they believe the girl was possessed. But there was another listener who had heard that same episode and they recall hearing disembodied voices for weeks after the episode. Another one claims that the volume of her radio turned up on its own and began changing stations and she was hearing weird noises. There was another one that said during the episode all the debt or all the items on his desk flew off and just insanely negative and weird energies yeah.
Speaker 2:
So a lot of people started seeing this and connecting all the dots together, like all this, like all the shit that happened, yeah. So their ongoing theory is, if you recall that during the phone call with jose, like nine years, but nine years back yeah he had seen the inverted cross with the eye.
Speaker 2:
That made him weep because he knew that that meant he was gonna die right. So a lot of fans believe that what happened was that he ended up trading juan ramon sanz's life for his own oh, that's why he shook his hand with the left hand with the ring on it and nobody else's.
Speaker 2:
So all in all, it's a pretty fucked up kind of like story, if you like really think about it and like I know that we have like the air of like disbelief. You like really think about it and like I know that we have like the air of like disbelief, like with all the paranormal stuff and I get it. I heard part of the story too and I was like there's no way, like the pig stuff. I was like there's no way, like there's no fucking way. That happened, right.
Speaker 2:
But if you really think about it, that's basically what the paranormal is like. Not everybody's gonna believe in in. I get that. There's stuff that's going to sound insane, right. But I feel like our part in this giant like orb of, like era of whatever, like the conspiracies and all that, and like the horror and like the paranormal yeah, I feel our part in this is not to tell you whether it's real or wrong. This is not to tell you whether it's real or wrong. It's to bring you the information and let you use your own like common sense and like knowledge or like your beliefs?
Speaker 3:
yeah, because I mean we could think, oh yeah, he. You know he made a deal with the devil, he got possessed and you know he had to sacrifice other people to get what he wants. And he said, fuck it, I'm gonna do it yeah other people might say, oh no, he just got lucky and then unlucky or you know unlucky shit happened to the people around him. It's, you know, to each his own. But I mean regardless.
Speaker 2:
Everything in that story is trippy as shit it is wild and that's basically what we do. We like bringing you guys these stories so you can hear them, because, um, we have listeners like all over the world, which is insane to me, yeah. It's crazy to see like how many people are from like we operate out of the United States.
Speaker 3:
Yeah.
Speaker 2:
But seeing like so many people outside of the United States like and then we have like a. We have a large following in Mexico, which is insane to me.
Speaker 3:
Yeah.
Speaker 2:
And then, like bringing this story that comes from there. It's like crazy. I like being able to do that, like yeah, stories, and just letting you guys listen to the stories, and then we have like I know, like hundreds of times I'll listen to a podcast and then afterwards I'll go do my own research. I think it's the beauty of it, because our followers they'll hop on our discord and then they'll be like oh well, have you heard about this? That's related to this or this or this, and I think it's super cool to be able to bring a story like this that a lot of people will have heard of or they would be able to hear, right, and bring it to everybody else they can hear and put their own input on it. Yeah, no, I agree, like put their own input on it.
Speaker 3:
Yeah, no, I agree, it's definitely an intriguing one, and it leaves your mind to think of about 30 to 40 different things that could have happened, should have happened, maybe happened, didn't happen.
Speaker 2:
Maybe it was a coincidence, maybe it was planned.
Speaker 3:
Yeah, it's hard to say.
Speaker 2:
Yeah.
Speaker 3:
But that also does bring me up to say, yes, anyone that was on the discord noticed it did disappear and that is because one had to make this April fools as realistic as possible. But to um also going to be transitioning from discord for that to telegram, so I'm currently working on that, getting it set up. Once it's set up, I will replace the discord link in the description with that, so just be mindful of that.
Speaker 2:
I mean other than that. I think wrap up another episode. Like I said, it's great to be back. I take that little hiatus there, hiatus. I think it was pretty cool to come back with a bang after an April Fool's prank.
Speaker 3:
Right, it was definitely perfect timing.
Speaker 2:
Yeah, but other than that, thank you guys so much for listening and supporting. We can't do what we do without your guys' support.
Speaker 3:
Exactly, we love you all.
Speaker 2:
Yes, we do, and until next time we'll see you in Helheim. Bye, thank you.